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While Microsoft was assembling a promotional booth to celebrate their Windows 7 launch directly opposite the Japan Linux Symposium in Tokyo, Microsoft's biggest competitor couldn't resist spontaneously recognizing the textbook exercise in irony.
According to AMD's Chris Schlaeger, participating at the 1st Annual Japan Linux Symposium (October 21-23) in Tokyo, at one point a small group led by Linux founder Linus Torvalds took a break to go to the Windows 7 booth that was coincidentally (or not) located just opposite the symposium, there to dwell on the meaningfulness of the situation.
Linus Torvalds finds that Windows 7 really rocks! Perhaps? (Photo: Chris Schlaeger).
Schlaeger, in the role of photographer at the event, was of the opinion that Microsoft intentially set up its Window 7 booth on its launch date specifically at the Linux Symposium to compromise the latter's success. However, the setup was just too much of a temptation for Torvalds. By his own admission, he often jokes about Microsoft, but stays clear of direct bashing.
(Anika Kehrer)
Comments
mmmhmmmm
anonymous
Nov 24, 2009 12:58pm GMT
Fact is, you all need lives. Every distro has issues in Linux, every version of Windows has issues, even Mac has issues. Sitting here arguing over who has the best operating system is ridiculous and infantile. Use what suits you. Get over yourselves. Computers aren't simple machines and therefore operating systems aren't SIMPLE either. Sit down, get over ALL your smug attitudes, and think about it. DOS is where it started and it wasn't simple. All the commands and all. Think about it. You messed up one character and you had to start again. DOS never had too many issues. Windows has. So in my opinion, all your goofy efforts... ALL of you Microsoft, Apple, and Linux alike has killed PCs. So grow up people. No operating system is better than the other. Some have more benefits than others but there's pros and cons to everything...
Vista was anything but fast
AL
Nov 09, 2009 3:48pm GMT
May be now Win 7 is faster, I do not think that many people can say that about preious Microsoft OS, especially if the hardware was old.
FTW
james
Nov 08, 2009 9:08am GMT
Yo! Mikell you suck, win7 easy hahaha, try looking MacOSX then you know win7 is a rip-off, and btw, Linux FTW!!
Please don't feed the troll!
Sassinak
Oct 28, 2009 1:38pm GMT
Windows may be my bread and butter, but Linux is my drug of choice!!
windoze7
hitchi
Oct 28, 2009 12:51am GMT
Just look at Linus's smile, he's really enjoying it!
Practical reasons to care about Free software...
Nevyn
Oct 27, 2009 11:18am GMT
Have any of you ever thought about the installation process? When having to install a Windows system I always feel this sense of dread. I'm going to have to sit there while it installs and then download all the drivers and install them and then go looking for software etc. It's a real hassle if you find it needs network drivers and usb drivers - download drivers on another machine, burn a cd and then install. Yuck.
And then a few months down the line I realise that a new version of X application is out. So I then start trawling through all those same sites that I downloaded those drivers or software from just to keep that system and the software up to date... Or I rely on the fact that alot of programs will tell me they need updating... as soon as I open them up. Oh hey, I just wanted to get going not sit around waiting for a damn update.
With Linux though, I install it, and my hardware works! Most of it anyway. No trawling through sites having to download the drivers. I've got most of the software I need installed by default and I don't have to trawl through websites looking for what I want. The distribution has done it for me.
And updates? No going through individual websites to get updates. Even better, I don't find that as soon as I open an application it's telling me there's an update and you'd better go visit their support or download page.
And then if I don't like the way a distribution does it, I have a choice. I can change my distribution if that's what does it for me.
And why the big difference? Because when things are Free, we've got the freedom to do things better...
Regards,
Nevyn
you are a troll
FT
Oct 27, 2009 10:17am GMT
mikkel,
you are a troll and an idiot
Mikkel
Marc
Oct 27, 2009 5:31am GMT
Nerds like you, Mikkel, may be happy with a lame duck like Win 7 .
( I guess you were as happy too with Vista )
But it will end like all the other Win distributions: the betatest is running now, with the
help of the paying user/customer . In a few years the "new" system will -maybe- performing
like the old XP .....
Nothing new ...., so keep on dreaming with your both eyes closed ))))
Marc
Ower dream is here now Linus - You did it.
Carling
Oct 27, 2009 1:26am GMT
Reply to rant Mikkel Oct 26, 2009
it is obvious that you have never kept up with the headlines news of windows 7 reports When a half ashed company as big as MS is turns out crap operating system and a A$$ olds idiots like you supports it to th hilts, it shows just how much common scenes you have between your hears,
One needs to look back and remember why Linus Torvalds started what he did and the reasons why,
Window 1,2, 3 and windows for work groups total disasters but workable if you had the hardware divers,
Windows 95 better than it's predecessors but still lacked manufactures support for hardware drivers, now you got the BSoD instead of a systems lock up,
Packhard Bell became history because of windows 98 disastrous lack of hardware drivers, every computer that left the factory was returned to the factory because they crash within an hour of turning them on, Windows ME well what can be said about that so called Microsoft's state of the art operating system.
Out of the ashes of window ME came NTFS 2000, with it major security holes then the next branch off came XP with it's many flavors still with the same security problems of NTFS 2000,, of which it took MS 6 years and 3 service packs later to get it XP reasonably sound and working. But still with the same security problems from NTFS 2000,
Then came Vista another windows ME preposterous episode, then out of the ashes of Vista comes the Vista upgrade renamed Windows 7, still with the same security problems six years later, reported here in this web link http://fsfe.org/news/2009/news-20091019-01.en.html.
And you have the cheek and audacity to mention Linux problems Come on man blow your nose, wipe those tears from your eyes, then you may see the writing on the wall through the light of day, whats in store for Microsoft
My my my... tried Prozac lately? I would recommend shutting your eyes, stepping one big foot back from your computer, taking ten deep, relaxing, breaths, and stabbing yourself in the neck with that stick thats firmly crammed up your A?!.
Seriously though. I will concede that there are a few areas where Windows seems to be ahead of linux- for example power management and out-of-the-box hardware support, but it is a very uninformed and arrogant assertion you have made. Linux has many advantages over Windows- security and stability to name just two, err... minor ones. Also, this jumbled mess of distributions you are seeing is what some call the freedom of choice. Also.. oh screw it- who wants to convince you anyways. We're probably (certainly!) better off without you. Enjoy your BSOD point-and-click DRM'ed talking paperclip he!! you seem to love so much.
Troll
Spastags
Oct 26, 2009 11:28pm GMT
LOL @ Mikkel. Nice trolling, man.
linux rocks
Paul
Oct 26, 2009 10:35pm GMT
@Mikkel
Some things windows does better, even XP. Some things linux does better. Personally, I prefer the Free of Linux. It scales better, without licensing hassle. This is particular important with virtual machines, or clusters. Even if Windows is slightly faster, the $200 or whatever the licensing fee is, will buy a huge jump in hardware, CPU, memory, disk, etc.
Windows excels in the land of proprietary. Flash, Windows Media, video drivers, etc. However, do you really want to hookup a Windows box unfirewalled to the internet? I have no such anxiety with my linux box, as I can easily secure it. And by extension, I prefer to do online banking, and other similar things via an inherently more secure and predictable operating system.
Your dream is gone Linus - Deal with it
Mikkel
Oct 26, 2009 9:21pm GMT
Linus, you had a nice idea, a dream even. However it wasn't supposed to be. Look at what Linux has become, an endless jungle of distros, breakaways and endless crap to deal with these days. Just look at the pop-posterboy Ubuntu. Seriously, Win7 runs FASTER AND SMOOTHER than a linux distro, who would have thought? Your smug attitude would have suited you about 10 years ago, now it's time to realize the big bad company is pounding your baby to dust because now Windows is faster, lighter, intuitive and EASY. I know elitist like you would probably want an OS to be complicated instead of easy but luckily your kind is a dying breed now.
Either fez up and turn the sinking linux ship around or stfu.
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Comments
mmmhmmmm
anonymous Nov 24, 2009 12:58pm GMT
Fact is, you all need lives. Every distro has issues in Linux, every version of Windows has issues, even Mac has issues. Sitting here arguing over who has the best operating system is ridiculous and infantile. Use what suits you. Get over yourselves. Computers aren't simple machines and therefore operating systems aren't SIMPLE either. Sit down, get over ALL your smug attitudes, and think about it. DOS is where it started and it wasn't simple. All the commands and all. Think about it. You messed up one character and you had to start again. DOS never had too many issues. Windows has. So in my opinion, all your goofy efforts... ALL of you Microsoft, Apple, and Linux alike has killed PCs. So grow up people. No operating system is better than the other. Some have more benefits than others but there's pros and cons to everything...Vista was anything but fast
AL Nov 09, 2009 3:48pm GMT
May be now Win 7 is faster, I do not think that many people can say that about preious Microsoft OS, especially if the hardware was old.FTW
james Nov 08, 2009 9:08am GMT
Yo! Mikell you suck, win7 easy hahaha, try looking MacOSX then you know win7 is a rip-off, and btw, Linux FTW!!Please don't feed the troll!
Sassinak Oct 28, 2009 1:38pm GMT
Windows may be my bread and butter, but Linux is my drug of choice!!windoze7
hitchi Oct 28, 2009 12:51am GMT
Just look at Linus's smile, he's really enjoying it!Practical reasons to care about Free software...
Nevyn Oct 27, 2009 11:18am GMT
Have any of you ever thought about the installation process? When having to install a Windows system I always feel this sense of dread. I'm going to have to sit there while it installs and then download all the drivers and install them and then go looking for software etc. It's a real hassle if you find it needs network drivers and usb drivers - download drivers on another machine, burn a cd and then install. Yuck.And then a few months down the line I realise that a new version of X application is out. So I then start trawling through all those same sites that I downloaded those drivers or software from just to keep that system and the software up to date... Or I rely on the fact that alot of programs will tell me they need updating... as soon as I open them up. Oh hey, I just wanted to get going not sit around waiting for a damn update.
With Linux though, I install it, and my hardware works! Most of it anyway. No trawling through sites having to download the drivers. I've got most of the software I need installed by default and I don't have to trawl through websites looking for what I want. The distribution has done it for me.
And updates? No going through individual websites to get updates. Even better, I don't find that as soon as I open an application it's telling me there's an update and you'd better go visit their support or download page.
And then if I don't like the way a distribution does it, I have a choice. I can change my distribution if that's what does it for me.
And why the big difference? Because when things are Free, we've got the freedom to do things better...
Regards,
Nevyn
you are a troll
FT Oct 27, 2009 10:17am GMT
mikkel,you are a troll and an idiot
Mikkel
Marc Oct 27, 2009 5:31am GMT
Nerds like you, Mikkel, may be happy with a lame duck like Win 7 .( I guess you were as happy too with Vista )
But it will end like all the other Win distributions: the betatest is running now, with the
help of the paying user/customer . In a few years the "new" system will -maybe- performing
like the old XP .....
Nothing new ...., so keep on dreaming with your both eyes closed
Marc
Ower dream is here now Linus - You did it.
Carling Oct 27, 2009 1:26am GMT
Reply to rant Mikkel Oct 26, 2009it is obvious that you have never kept up with the headlines news of windows 7 reports When a half ashed company as big as MS is turns out crap operating system and a A$$ olds idiots like you supports it to th hilts, it shows just how much common scenes you have between your hears,
One needs to look back and remember why Linus Torvalds started what he did and the reasons why,
Window 1,2, 3 and windows for work groups total disasters but workable if you had the hardware divers,
Windows 95 better than it's predecessors but still lacked manufactures support for hardware drivers, now you got the BSoD instead of a systems lock up,
Packhard Bell became history because of windows 98 disastrous lack of hardware drivers, every computer that left the factory was returned to the factory because they crash within an hour of turning them on, Windows ME well what can be said about that so called Microsoft's state of the art operating system.
Out of the ashes of window ME came NTFS 2000, with it major security holes then the next branch off came XP with it's many flavors still with the same security problems of NTFS 2000,, of which it took MS 6 years and 3 service packs later to get it XP reasonably sound and working. But still with the same security problems from NTFS 2000,
Then came Vista another windows ME preposterous episode, then out of the ashes of Vista comes the Vista upgrade renamed Windows 7, still with the same security problems six years later, reported here in this web link
http://fsfe.org/news/2009/news-20091019-01.en.html.
And you have the cheek and audacity to mention Linux problems Come on man blow your nose, wipe those tears from your eyes, then you may see the writing on the wall through the light of day, whats in store for Microsoft
Linus-Windows-7-rocks-NOT.jpg
bjd Oct 27, 2009 12:39am GMT
Also see http://www.xs4all.nl/~bjdouma/Linus-Windows-7-rocks-NOT.jpgGrrr
Bryan Oct 26, 2009 11:31pm GMT
Mikkel-My my my... tried Prozac lately? I would recommend shutting your eyes, stepping one big foot back from your computer, taking ten deep, relaxing, breaths, and stabbing yourself in the neck with that stick thats firmly crammed up your A?!.
Seriously though. I will concede that there are a few areas where Windows seems to be ahead of linux- for example power management and out-of-the-box hardware support, but it is a very uninformed and arrogant assertion you have made. Linux has many advantages over Windows- security and stability to name just two, err... minor ones. Also, this jumbled mess of distributions you are seeing is what some call the freedom of choice. Also.. oh screw it- who wants to convince you anyways. We're probably (certainly!) better off without you. Enjoy your BSOD point-and-click DRM'ed talking paperclip he!! you seem to love so much.
Troll
Spastags Oct 26, 2009 11:28pm GMT
LOL @ Mikkel. Nice trolling, man.linux rocks
Paul Oct 26, 2009 10:35pm GMT
@MikkelSome things windows does better, even XP. Some things linux does better. Personally, I prefer the Free of Linux. It scales better, without licensing hassle. This is particular important with virtual machines, or clusters. Even if Windows is slightly faster, the $200 or whatever the licensing fee is, will buy a huge jump in hardware, CPU, memory, disk, etc.
Windows excels in the land of proprietary. Flash, Windows Media, video drivers, etc. However, do you really want to hookup a Windows box unfirewalled to the internet? I have no such anxiety with my linux box, as I can easily secure it. And by extension, I prefer to do online banking, and other similar things via an inherently more secure and predictable operating system.
Your dream is gone Linus - Deal with it
Mikkel Oct 26, 2009 9:21pm GMT
Linus, you had a nice idea, a dream even. However it wasn't supposed to be. Look at what Linux has become, an endless jungle of distros, breakaways and endless crap to deal with these days. Just look at the pop-posterboy Ubuntu. Seriously, Win7 runs FASTER AND SMOOTHER than a linux distro, who would have thought? Your smug attitude would have suited you about 10 years ago, now it's time to realize the big bad company is pounding your baby to dust because now Windows is faster, lighter, intuitive and EASY. I know elitist like you would probably want an OS to be complicated instead of easy but luckily your kind is a dying breed now.Either fez up and turn the sinking linux ship around or stfu.