Not particularly proxy to this decision were the Open Source developers specifically tasked by the government to rid the schools of proprietary software licenses. As Francesc Busquets, software developer at the Generalitat de Catalunya, can attest, "We weren't consulted and or involved in the decision. As far as we know, there hasn't been a change in strategy from bringing GNU/Linux to Catalonia's schools."
Minister of education Ernest Maragall had announced in April 2008 that hundreds of schools would be switched to GNU/Linux. The main reason, he said at the time, was the illegal use of proprietary software.
Microsoft's offer involves the creation of virtual communities under its Live@edu suite of applications and that will be provided personalized e-mail accounts. Meanwhile Microsoft claims that the resulting content isn't coupled with any particular platform. But the bundling with Microsoft's services organized around their updates, together with their proven bad Linux touchscreen support, pretty much ensures Windows as the platform of choice.
(Kristian Kissling)
Comments
worldwide issue really
Flipper
Mar 08, 2009 1:12pm GMT
Even in the states, the issue is a big one to deal with. Florida public school networks and their "support" are based on a long commitment to Microsoft. While the school level support tech and network staff would prefer a transition to Linux, administration level staff see their job security at risk and won't allow talk of Linux. Their training has been in the Microsoft environment and they will continue to train and push for it. Anything else would mean retooling and training on their own part as well as admitting to the past expenses of administering a system that is too fat with costs.
Seeing the advantages of open source, many specialists have kept up with the news and have learned how to implement and support it when the time comes. It is a matter of waiting for tech administration to retire or move on.
To read this news of a place where Microsoft is getting its foot back in the door is not a good sign to the rest of us. Especially when the economy is in a position to push many to other options.
Not surprising at all
entfe001
Feb 24, 2009 6:48pm GMT
Pretty disappointing but not surprising at all. Right now I am using a computer in a classroom from a public school which came with a Windows Vista Business OEM license. It never ran because the computers were formatted to install a Fedora 9. And that happened to 30 computers this year and 30 more the past year.
That's 60 useless (and properly paid) Windows licenses!
a different view ..
sillyxone
Feb 24, 2009 2:37pm GMT
or, we could look at the earlier announcement as a way to get MS discount ...
Annoying...
Pau
Feb 24, 2009 1:04pm GMT
What annoys me is this double-way of thinking and acting. I don't understand for what reason they promote the creation of a GNU/Linux distribution which is supposed to be implemented in the schools and then they sign this stupid deal with microsoft. The result: spending money everywhere without no real or good effect on the citizenship.
Unsustainable strategy
rich
Feb 24, 2009 12:49pm GMT
The real cost of this transaction will appear at renewal time.
Correction
David
Feb 24, 2009 12:03pm GMT
None of the following links work properly:
* "Open Source developers"
* "announced in April 2008 "
They take you to the general press notes section of the Generalitat de Catalunya instead to the article itself.
As a Catalan Citizen, I'm very very disappointed...
ric
Feb 24, 2009 10:13am GMT
As a Catalan Citizen, I'm very very disappointed...
Additionally some politics on going in this decision.
cblanquer
Feb 24, 2009 9:54am GMT
Newspapers in Catalonio that usually associate a forum of opinions to the news did not do it in that particular case -with a honourable exception.
I wonder whether somebody got instructed not to allow e-polemics related to that decision.
The news said it was a great progress towards "catalanisation" of the educational software, when open source is for a long time well provided with suitable translations to the local language !
In any case I disliked not to be able to give my own opnion on the open arena after such a commercial agreement. It reminds me this intervention to stop the spread of the open source intitiatives in Nigeria or another African country in the recent past (sorry I do not remember more details).
correction
Britta Wuelfing
Feb 23, 2009 7:45pm GMT
Thanks, of course. It's been corrected.
correction
themacmeister
Feb 23, 2009 5:22am GMT
I believe you meant to say "touchscreen" at the end, instead of "touchpad".
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Comments
worldwide issue really
Flipper Mar 08, 2009 1:12pm GMT
Even in the states, the issue is a big one to deal with. Florida public school networks and their "support" are based on a long commitment to Microsoft. While the school level support tech and network staff would prefer a transition to Linux, administration level staff see their job security at risk and won't allow talk of Linux. Their training has been in the Microsoft environment and they will continue to train and push for it. Anything else would mean retooling and training on their own part as well as admitting to the past expenses of administering a system that is too fat with costs.Seeing the advantages of open source, many specialists have kept up with the news and have learned how to implement and support it when the time comes. It is a matter of waiting for tech administration to retire or move on.
To read this news of a place where Microsoft is getting its foot back in the door is not a good sign to the rest of us. Especially when the economy is in a position to push many to other options.
Not surprising at all
entfe001 Feb 24, 2009 6:48pm GMT
Pretty disappointing but not surprising at all. Right now I am using a computer in a classroom from a public school which came with a Windows Vista Business OEM license. It never ran because the computers were formatted to install a Fedora 9. And that happened to 30 computers this year and 30 more the past year.That's 60 useless (and properly paid) Windows licenses!
a different view ..
sillyxone Feb 24, 2009 2:37pm GMT
or, we could look at the earlier announcement as a way to get MS discount ...Annoying...
Pau Feb 24, 2009 1:04pm GMT
What annoys me is this double-way of thinking and acting. I don't understand for what reason they promote the creation of a GNU/Linux distribution which is supposed to be implemented in the schools and then they sign this stupid deal with microsoft. The result: spending money everywhere without no real or good effect on the citizenship.Unsustainable strategy
rich Feb 24, 2009 12:49pm GMT
The real cost of this transaction will appear at renewal time.Correction
David Feb 24, 2009 12:03pm GMT
None of the following links work properly:* "Open Source developers"
* "announced in April 2008 "
They take you to the general press notes section of the Generalitat de Catalunya instead to the article itself.
As a Catalan Citizen, I'm very very disappointed...
ric Feb 24, 2009 10:13am GMT
As a Catalan Citizen, I'm very very disappointed...Additionally some politics on going in this decision.
cblanquer Feb 24, 2009 9:54am GMT
Newspapers in Catalonio that usually associate a forum of opinions to the news did not do it in that particular case -with a honourable exception.I wonder whether somebody got instructed not to allow e-polemics related to that decision.
The news said it was a great progress towards "catalanisation" of the educational software, when open source is for a long time well provided with suitable translations to the local language !
In any case I disliked not to be able to give my own opnion on the open arena after such a commercial agreement. It reminds me this intervention to stop the spread of the open source intitiatives in Nigeria or another African country in the recent past (sorry I do not remember more details).
correction
Britta Wuelfing Feb 23, 2009 7:45pm GMT
Thanks, of course. It's been corrected.correction
themacmeister Feb 23, 2009 5:22am GMT
I believe you meant to say "touchscreen" at the end, instead of "touchpad".