Jan 01, 1970

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  • Bullshit

    All this diversity talk is such a piece of bullshit!
    There are fewer women here, there are fewer blacks there, there are fewer Asians elsewhere, there are fewer Native-whatever someplace else... Of course! Not all social groups have the same level and type of interest in all things in life! The differences may be huge, but they are *** NATURAL ***. To say otherwise is to close the eyes to the facts, ignore reality, presumably with a hidden agenda. Maybe those who defend this bullshit are just trying to project themselves. I don't see a lot of men interested in being kindergarten teachers - it is just not in their nature, and *** THAT IS ALL RIGHT ***. Stop trying to conform nature to your wishes or political motivations, whiners! Get real and let the world and society work as it does naturally!

  • Increasing diversity

    Thanks for spot-lighting not only the issues, but the positive efforts to make the ubuntu community, the Linux user community, and all the F/OSS community a stronger, more vibrant place. The first two comments on this article show the problem. Fortunately, progressive leadership is moving right on past the clubhouse mentality which has persisted for far too long.

    I wouldn't be reading this without the support and leadership of the Linuxchix, the Ubuntu-Women, and the welcoming community of both K/Ubuntu and KDE (and Amarok, where most of my efforts are centered right now). Thanks to you all!

    Valorie

  • correction

    Pardon my geography mistake, it's *Malaysia* where about half of CS people are women.

  • not just women

    The Ubuntu Accessibility Team is also getting involved in this diversity effort, making suggestions for how to make Ubuntu Developer Summits more accessible to those with both visible (such as wheelchair access) and invisible (such as food allergies) accessibility needs.

    And regarding the women thing: 50:50 would be unrealistic to expect, yes. However 5% (in Ubuntu, or 2% in FOSS overall) is just plain ridiculously low. The rest of the technology sector in the Western world is at around 25%, and in the Middle East and Indian subcontinent it's greater than 50% women, so I refuse to buy "just not into it." There's got to be reasons behind the proportion of women working on Ubuntu versus any other software being fractional. I shouldn't need to repeat this list since it's been said so damn many times before, but demanding proof when she corrects someone on IRC that she's a she, sexually harassing her when such a correction is made or an in-person meeting occurs, trying to convince her that she must be certifiably insane for being a woman and interested in technology/FOSS, explaining away her patches as likely having been written by her boyfriend, claiming that software needs to be made simple for women to use it or that women can't use the command line... all this stuff? THIS MAKES MANY WOMEN FEEL UNWELCOME!

  • ^^^^^^

    What Hauser said...will everyone please just stop whining. You don't see many men complaining about lack of men in kindergartens or women complaining about equal rights in coal mining.

    There are no women because they are less interested, period. If there is sexism, there is sexism of individuals, who are sexists in their own time anyway, there's nothing you can do to change that. Sad fact, but fact nevertheless.

  • Stop whining!

    Who is stopping women to participate? Who is stopping women from downloading the iso image from Ubuntu site and installing it on their system?
    Why can't you stop whining for a change? If women want to contribute, please do, the more women, the better the project, but stop pointing fingers, stop blaming people. The fact of the life is that distribution of activities is NOT 50:50, that assumption is so absurd that I can't believe that people like you don't see it. When I walk into a computer shop, if you contribute to BOINC project, etc, men are in wast majority, everyone can install BOINC on their computer and run the project, but for some reason 98% of participants are men. It has nothing to do with discrimination, as it doesn't when you walk into a humanities collage campus and see more women there, or in biology/chemistry then physics.
    It will never be 50:50%. The problem is that your assumptions are not the equality of men and women but sameness of man and women, which is horrifying distortion of truth.
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